Independent Speaking – Listening To Others: feedback on speeches 5 - Friday 3 SP14

Below are my impressions of some of your speeches.
Some general points:-
1) Fluency is generally not very good. You all need to improve your fluency, and you can only do this by speaking English as much as you can. Go to the Chit-chat club or World Forum. Speak with teachers every chance you get.
2) Your speeches are quite short. Partly this is because of fluency, partly because of lack of ideas. To develop your capacity to generate ideas, go over all your speeches again and for every topic try to come up with two or three alternative speeches each with different ideas.
3) Support for main points is quite weak, and rarely more than a single sentence. Again, this is a fluency problem.
4) Think synonyms. Your speeches tend to be repetitive. Try to restate things using different words. For eample, instead of repeating 'make friends' again and again, you could say 'form relationships'.
Below are some of your classmates speeches. Please follow these steps.
a) Read the transcript b) Read my comments in red c) Listen to the speech d) Look at the errors I have corrected

1. 
First university students should live in a dormitory on campus. Eh firstly, eh we can learn human relationship with other people eh if we live in an apartment in town we can do everything that I want to do. Secondly, if I don’t  know uh how to do housework I can ask my friends and eh living cost is cheaper than living in an apartment in town and living in an apartment takes more time to come to university than living in a dormitory. (83words)
This speech was quite fluent, but it was a shopping list. There are four main points and none of them are explained. Please remember to explain your main points.  Also,  I don’t  understand the connection between ‘learn human relationships in dormitory’ and ‘do everything that I want’ in an apartment. (score 2)
Listen to speech
town we can do everything that I want to do should be town I can do anything that I want to do
living in an apartment takes more time to come should be living in an apartment , it takes more time to come

2.
A dormitory is better to live than apartment. When we live in apartment we must cook ourselves, but dormitory serves regular food for us.  And dormitory isn’t costly, but living an apartment is costly. (34 words)
This speech was very short, with very simple ideas. Fluency was terrible, but I don’t know if that was because of lack of ideas or just poor speaking ability. (score less than 2)
Listen to speech
we must cook ourselves should be we must cook for ourselves



3.
I think living in a dormitory on campus is better. Firstly, students who live in a dormitory grew can grew up more mentally than students who live in a apartment. Recently, people who don't have brother or sister are increasing. So, living in a dormitory is useful to work on social in the social in the future. Secondary, people who live in a dormitory can make friends more than people who live in a apartment. In the university, students come from all over the world. So, a.we don't student don't have (90 words) Listen to speech
This speech was quite fluent and structurally very good. There was quite good explanation for both main points. There were some silly grammar mistakes , but not really serious. (Score 3)
can grew up more mentally should be can mature
is useful to work on social in the social should be helps us to work on social skills


4.
I think living in dormitory on campus is better. First, it is easy to make many friends in dormitory and always there are friends. So when I have troubles, friends listen to me and encourage me, but if I live in apart alone, it is difficult to do so. So I might feel lonely. Secondly, I can learn importance of cooperation in dormitory. Uh, in dormitory, we have to think to other people. So we can get many useful, useful knowledge. So (82 words) Listen to speech
This speech had a good structure and the fluency was quite good. There was some explanation of the main points. Speaking faster and saying more would have made this a very good speech indeed.  (Score 3)
but if I live in apart alone should be but if I live in an apartment alone
we have to think to other people should be we have to think of other people


5.
First year students in university should live in apartment in town. When we live in a apartment there there relax time than in dormitory, in dormitory we must communicate friends and other people after school time. Also I must everythingI must do everything by myself in apartment, but dormitory I can talk about talk with friends and I decide something with friends.(60 words)
Listen to speech
This speech was very confused, and apart from the topic statement, I wasn’t sure which the speaker preferred, dormitory or apartment. The grammar was also very poor. (Score less than2)
there relax time than in dormitory should be we can relax more  than in dormitory
we must communicate friends should be we must communicate with friends



6.

I think living in a dormitory on campus is better than living in an apartment in a town. Firstly, we can make friends easily and there are order students who help us Uh but Ah but in, in an apartment it is so difficult to make friends or make order stu make helps people. Secondly, Uh    the environment of dormitory is Ah is good. And for example, all Un there are also food service, talk time with roommate or something event. Un we can, we can feel comfortable and and but in an apartment is, in, is ap, ap, living in an apartment is so it is so(108 words)
Listen to speech
Fluency was a bit of a problem here, but structurally the speech was OK.  Better fluency would have given more time to explain the main points.  Another problem was the grammar which was not good. (Score 2.8)
make helps people should be get help from other people
or something event should be some other event


7.
I should first year university student live in dormitory because they had just moved in the town. So they don’t know much about the town, so in dormitory there are many friends and elder students so..they can ask for help for elder students or friends but.in apartment the person next door almost almost they  don’t know so when they in trouble, they can’t ask for help But in dormitory they can and in dormitory..they can..easy to make friends because there are many activities.(75words)
The speech had problems with fluency and structure. There was only one main point. Also, the opening statement was not good  and left a very bad impression. (Score 2.5)
I should first year university student should be I think first year students should
when they in trouble should be when they are in trouble
Listen to speech


8.
I think first university students should live in a dormitory on campus. It’s good. I can in a dormitory I can help each other when I complicate. And I can make friend with my many people . I  tho I don’t become miss. There are many friends around me always. And other opinion It’s easy to go to campus. I can sleep more before I go to campus. But on the other hand, living in a apartment in a town, I is free. There is no rule. But sometimes will make me lonely and rude.(95words) Listen to speech
Again fluency is a problem here. The structure was not too good, and the grammar was weak. The use of ‘on the other hand’ was wrong. Please do not use this phrase. Use ‘in contrast’ instead. (score 2.2)
I can help each other should be we can help each other
I don’t become miss. Should be (I don’t know what it should be as I don’t understand it)



9.
I think living in dormitory is better. Firstly, you can make friends. If you live in an apartment, you always been alone at home. But in dormitory ah o so many people around you and you can be a friend with them. Secondly, in a dormitory you can learn how to associate with a lot of people. It’s will it’s kinda like ah social study. So you can learn how to corporate with people and how understand what other people think and you can learn many things from them for living in an hour living in an year with them.(100 words) THIS IS THE WRONG TRANSCRIPT!!!
Listen to speech
This speech was good. It was fluent, well-structured and used some very good vocabulary.  Unfortunately the student either sent the wrong transcript or didn’t bother to transcribe it accurately. (Score 3.5)



10.
I think  I live. living in a dormitory is better for first year students. Uh firstly, we can make good friends. If I don’t know anything, my friends teach me cooking recipes,  how to use the computer. Secondly, dormitory has a good security system. If I’m involved in the accident, manager help me. But if I live in an apartment, nobody help me.  So That’s why living in a dormitory is better for first year students. (77 words) Listen to speech
This speech was too short. What the speaker said was OK but there wasn;t enough. Support for the main points was very weak. (Score 2.8)
my friends teach me cooking recipes should be my friends can teach me what do, such as cooking with recipes
manager help me should be the manager can help me



11.
I think it is better for 1st year university student to live in a dormitory on campus. First, I think it is easy to make a lot of friends in a dormitory. They can help each other, they don’t have to feel lonely. Secondly, ah the students in a dormitory can spend good life style. For example, they can keep early hours. But a students live who live alone sometimes feel lazy, sometimes they overslept I think. And ah finally I think it is safe. (85words) Listen to speech
Fluency was not too bad in this speech, but the structure was poor. There were three main points with very little explanation for the first two and none for the third. (Score 2.8)
students in a dormitory can spend good life style should be students in a dormitory can have a  good life style
they overslept should be they oversleep



12.
I think 1st year university students should live in a dormitory on campus. The main reason is ah a I can communicate with many friends in a dormitory. But in an apartment uh a in a apartment, I am alone. Second second, living in a dormitory is safer than in..live in an apartment in town. Ah apartment is more dangerous. (56 words) Listen to speech
This speech is too short. Fluency is a real problem , and there is no explanation for either of the main points. (Score 2.2)


13.
I think living in dormitory is better than living in apartment in town for first year university students. Firstly, dormitory is safer than apartment. So their parents don’t worry about safety. Secondly, if university students have trouble, for example, studying, relationship and club activity, they can be supported by around people. It is the best thing for living in dormitory is making a lot of friends. So they can learn humanic education. (72 words) Listen to speech
The fluency here is not too bad, but again there is not enough explanation of main points. Better fluency means faster speaking rate which means more content in the speech. (Score 2.5)
parents don’t worry should be parents don’t need to worry
supported by around people should be supported by the people around them
humanic education should be humanistic education
 


14.
I think a dormitory on campus is better than an apartment in town. Because first university students make no still make no friends and feel loneliness maybe. So but in a dormitory, they can make a lot of friends and if they have some trouble, a lot of people around there will support. And also I think in a dormitory, there are no neccsery of worry about cost,,, about cost. I think in a dormitory is cheaper than in an apartment about cost. For example, water cost fever cost call living cost. (90) Listen to speech
This speech was quite fluent, but the start of the second sentence was confusing. It should have compared first year students living in an apartment with those in a dormitory. The beginning of the sentence didn’t do this. Again, the explanation of main points was weak. (Score 2.5)
first university students make no still make no friends should be first-year university students might not make any friends
there are no neccsery of worry should be it is not necessary to worry